Talk:Guinevere Pendragon/@comment-150.254.73.222-20130518133639/@comment-5102537-20130522103504

"It could have been quite a gutsy move for the writers if they'd have it that, with the way the deck was stacked against them, Arthur and Guinevere weren't able to get married."

I agree, ReganX. The way it was done, one would assume that everyone in and around Camelot was totally fine with having commoners/peasants/servants become royal/noble and their queen (or king) and that Uther obviously came from another planet where royalty and nobility belonged to royals and nobles when he seemed to be the only one who held up traditions that obviously weren't even traditions given that so many older royals and kings had no problem with Gwen (even Godwyn didn't seem to see the traditional necessity of Arthur marrying a noble woman).

The only other person who visibly shared Uther's opinion was Agravaine - and he probably only did it to manipulate Arthur. On the other hand, he mentioned the very fact that the king of Camelot can't be with a serving girl, so one way or another, the nobles and royals must have had a problem with commoners/servants to become noble or royal all of a sudden.

Total chaos.

The only reason that worked for me was the fact that Gwen once proved in front of the court that she was more than just a serving girl when she challenged Agravaine and helped the citizens of Camelot by convincing the court that opening the gates of the castle was the better idea. This could contribute to some of the nobles accepting Gwen but it could never work with everyone or with other kings and queens outside Camelot. Moreover, there obviously was no jelousy and envy from other servants and commoners, although Arthur was surely desired by many other women too.

In a more realistic way, Uther defending the tradition was credible and plausible. All the others accepting and wanting Gwen was unlikely and implausible. To show the viewers that making differences in classes was/is wrong they should have developed the entire plot in regard to social problems much better. As a matter of fact, in those times and under the given circumstances, the majority of people in and around Camelot would have shared Uther's opinion and dismissed Arthur's love for a serving girl. In real life, even most commoners disapproved of peasants and servants becoming noble but thought that they did not belong to the upper class.