Board Thread:Rewatching "Merlin" - Season Four/@comment-5102537-20131103103427/@comment-5367080-20131105161254

I too feel that it was nice that Guinevere cared for Uther, I don't think she was disgusted by Uther, nor do I think she hates him. I think she did hate him, but seeing him in his weak state she feels nothing for him. As for saying she did it for Arthur's sake, I don't think Uther was listening they were talking in hush tones. And for Gwen being a constant reminder of Morgana, that is a true point I never thought about :P although having said that, Gwen didn't have a job seen as her mistress Morgana was gone, she was available to help the king and that is why I think she was chosen, I don't think anyone took the idea of Gwen reminding him of Morgana into account.

I think Morgana's plot was primarily to kill Arthur, it's sort of like using a nuke in modern times, sure you do alot of damage, but you know it gets the job done :P The Dorocha were the big weapon Morgana was to throw at Arthur to put him in an impossible position, she knew that Arthur would either be killed by the Dorocha or offer himself as sacrifice at the Veil, because that is who he is. What she did not take into account was Merlin and Lancelot, with Merlin she expected he would either be killed by the Dorocha, stopped by Arthur or simply not go through the veil, Lancelot she did not know and therefore would have been a surprise to her.

I personally think the series should have put more focus on Lancelot having him become the best of the best with the knights, but its a matter of timing really, I think this series really needed eight series to be done to it's full potential, so that there could be series devoted to the biggest plots like the affair of Lancelot and Guinevere for example. But alas, it did not happen. None the less, Lancelot should have at least been alive until he had his affair with Gwen, by having it as a one episode thing we missed out on the opinions of Merlin, the reaction of Elyan, any suspicions Arthur had and perhaps Agravaine and Morgana learning about the affair.

I don't know much on the deleted scene, but if I recall I think that was from her going to the Pool of Nemhain, in the show it had her simply flick a coin in the pool and had Lancelot emerge, but in the deleted scene I think she goes to the spirit world, sees Morgause then brings out Lancelot. I am not sure though, it's a shame though it would have been a really good character development if it had been kept.

Onto Uther's pain, I don't think theres much I can say about that you haven't said already :P Uther coming back from the dead was just a filler, and it was stupid. Uther had changed in his last days, he would have seen Arthur's new knights, maybe even Guinevere and would have at least come to live with it. He would also have seen Arthur's successes from the Spirit World and should have been contempt. Instead he returns with some vengeful streak and even threatens to kill Arthur! Uther could never do that, if it had to happen it should have been more than a filler, and in my opinion should not have happened full stop.

With Morgause, I felt that she died leaving alot of unanswered questions, such as why she had to flee when by the lucks of it she did not have any magical parents. Also, I feel that Morgause was one of the main antagonists of the show (alongside Nimueh, Mordred and Morgana) and should have had her story come to more of a close, personally after everything she had done I feel she should have had some sort of finale to her role in the series, maybe one last attack, maybe learning Merlin's secret, who knows?

As for Agravaine it makes sense why he would hate Uther, who killed both Igraine and Tristan, but why Arthur? And why turn up when Uther was just a bumbling wreck? And the fact that they never really showed us the reason makes it even worse. Also, we didn't see any of his relations progress, he never showed any more love for Morgana than a few tender moments that she did not return that came completely out of the blue and ended with a new evil scheme and he showed nothing for anyone in Camelot, not even a dislike towards Arthur, he seemed completely indifferent and thats what annoyed me, he was just like a Saxon or a Southron, never explored, never progressed, just around for the sake of a story and to serve Morgana.