Board Thread:What If?/@comment-5674726-20130906200850/@comment-5102537-20130908142135

Don't worry, ReganX. I made the list most of all for myself so that I won't forget half of my thoughts... which will probably happen despite the list anyway :-D

You've got very interesting thoughts and I agree with what you wrote.

My main interest is in what would have happened to Camelot at all if Uther had survided. Almost everything we saw in seasons four and five would have changed or happened differently, starting with Arthur and Gwen because I doubt that Uther would have agreed to a marriage. On the other hand, given that he obviously had a total backflip in thoughts after Morgana's betrayal which brought him into his condition, he might have agreed... though I doubt it.

However, when Arthur and Gwen kissed almost in front of him he surely noticed that something was going on between the two of them. He didn't speak much and showed almost no reaction whenever we saw him but he indeed understood what others told him and was "awake" whenever it came to Arthur. I think that he simply didn't care about the stuff that was going on around him because his whole life and everything he had ever believed in was turned upside down. So there is a slight chance that he might have allowed the relationship.

But then, it could have gone into the opposite direction since, as you've already mentioned, Gwen saw him when he was most vulnerable and had almost no privacy anymore which might have caused him to create the biggest distance between him and Gwen possible. Who knows, maybe he would have refused to accept any further contact with her whatsoever due to shame and hurt pride. But honestly, in the first three episodes of season four it was quite clear to me that he already had a change of mind, otherwise he wouldn't have gone broken and would have tried to capture Morgana instead of giving up his whole life due to her betrayal. So if he had suffered from his past when seeing the sudden result of it and if he had fought an inner fight with hisself due to it all, he probably had changed his opinion about other things too, namely the knights and maybe even Gwen/servants.

The knights: aside from the fact that Arthur actually no right to knight them in the first place when he wasn't even prince regent anymore that point of time, plus ignored the first code and Uther's/Camelot's rules, Uther most certainly knew about the knights when he was still alive already. This was evident when he sat at one table with them at Arthur's birthday feast. Not to mention that Arthur informed Uther regularly about the daily things in Camelot, so the knights can't have been under his radar.

Once he would have recovered, and I believe he would if he had survived, he also should have known that the knights had served Camelot extremely well, honoured the code, were most loyal to Arthur and last but not least saved entire Camelot and Uther from Morgana and Morgause. Uther owed them his life in the season three finale. And Lancelot, the one who had already proven his sense for honour when he readily left Camelot to avoid a quarrel between father and son in season one, sacrificed his life to save not only Arthur but actually the whole land. Uther, no matter how stubborn and old fashioned, couldn't have ingnored that, so I'm absolutely sure that he would have complained at Arthur and probably would have asked him what the hell he was thinking to simply change the first code, but then he would have appreciated the knight's help. I also believe that especially Uther and Lancelot would have gootten along with each other well since Lancelot was the most noble, wise, considering and mature one of all knights. Uther wasn't stupid and he was never stingy with rewards and gratitude when it came to noble/heroic acts, so he certainly wouldn't have sent the knights away.

I wonder what would have happened if Uther had met Morgana again. And if so, how would they have met and would he have tried to find her?

I don't have the time to continue right now, so more later.