Board Thread:What If?/@comment-5674726-20130906200850/@comment-5674726-20130927190419

Fimber wrote: And Agravaine, yes - he probably would have either been sent home by Uther, punished by Uther or they would have come to terms with each other once Uther had seen things differently. It's hard to tell because we know almost nothing about Agravaine. The entire character was actually illogical, given that he was one of those who obviously knew about the circumstances of Arthur's birth. If so, Uther surely knew that Agravaine held a grudge against him but still he didn't fear that Agravaine would ever tell Arthur the secret? Since Arthur had been knowing Agravaine ever since he was a child, how could Uther be sure that Agravaine will never tell Arthur the "truth"? And why didn't Uther think that Agravaine held a grudge against him when his sister and brother died? Why did Agravaine wait for decades until he could take revenge?

Maybe it was a case of Agravaine visiting court infrequently when Arthur was a child, with the young Arthur trusting him because he was his only maternal kin. If Agravaine was outwardly loyal, Uther may have felt that he couldn't ban him from visiting court but, at the same time, he wasn't rolling out the red carpet for him. If he knew that Agravaine was interested in Morgana, he wouldn't have wanted him around her so it may be that Agravaine visited ore frequently during Arthur and Morgana's childhood, before she was old enough for him to take an interest in her that Uther didn't approve of.

As for taking revenge, I think that it was less about Arthur than it was about Morgana. Agravaine was quite a cold fish, except where Morgana was concerned, and I'd say that he didn't consider Arthur as anything but an obstacle to what she wanted.